I would say this is changing quite rapidly. Our side, the Rationalistas have had enough. This is because like any other rational human we have come to the conclusion over time that we are not the problem in this relationship. I broke when I had a suburban Liberal preach to me it would be my fault if I did not vote for Joe Biden and democracy dies. I responded will "Sure, but can you get him to stop murdering people in my name?" She went on a tirade and laid into me. I absolutely lost my shit and said not only was I not voting for Biden but I was going to vote for Trump, and when he wins I will volunteer for the American Einsatzgruppen and come and visit her then. I of course was not going to do any of this but I wanted them to know what real fear felt like. Truth is Trump is exactly the same as them so if he wins again he will just look out for his own interests.